- Mark Griswold
SoundPolitics.com vaulted into the forefront of Washington State Republican consciousness back in 2004 with founder Stefan Sharkansky’s excellent research on the election fraud that Christine Gregoire used to steal the governor’s office from Dino Rossi that year. Stefan’s research was exceptional and his writing outstanding.
How the mighty have fallen.
During the Rossi period, despite (or perhaps because of) what was, even then, his unabashed social liberalism, Stefan began to be regarded as a “conservative” spokesman by the Statist Media (Times, P-I, et al).
Then, in recent years, as Stefan pulled back from daily writing and research we saw, first, the ascendency of left-wing “Republicrat” Eric Earling, a Bush-era employee of the unConstitutional Federal Department of Education. Earling put up endless articles but was, himself, neither socially nor fiscally conservative. And, now that “the Earring,” presumably, had to find a real job (with the Democrats controlling Federal patronage) the SoundPolitics torch has passed again.
Now we see regular posts by, of all people, Mark Griswold (Formerly “Full Contact Politics”). Mark is no stranger to King County Republicans. He has, for years, been a radical activist for the radical GOP Left and their deceptions.
But it was his eulogies for the recently departed Kirby Wilbur radio show the past few days, that got Mark into trouble. At one point he presumed to speak for conservatives. (wow.)
Responding to that absurd affectation, sometime Reagan Wing commenter and SoundPolitics reader Brian Thomas posted counterpoint.
Sound deleted it.
Brian re-posted it.
Sound deleted it again.
Why the censorship? Was Brian vulgar? Did Brian falsely libel Mark with accusations of racism, anti-Semitism, illegal activity or question his sanity as Mark, himself, has done, countless times to others?
Nope.
Here, as posted, is Brian’s SOUNDPOLITICS-censored post:
55. ” I’m sure I speak for conservatives around the Puget Sound “Say It Ain’t So! Kirby Wilbur Off The Air! by Mark Griswold, November 13, 2009Actually, you don’t speak for Conservatives. If for no other reason than you are not a Conservative. As your ilk in leadership positions in the King County and Washington State Republican Party who, like you, self-identify themselves as ‘Conservatives’.Posted by Brian Thomas at November 14, 2009 12:21 PM
WHO IS MARK GRISWOLD?
Mark Griswold is so far from being a conservative he can’t abide someone pointing out the incongruity of the claim. His conservative pose is too fragile to withstand scrutiny. The suggestion Brian makes is so potentially damaging Mark feels the need to censor it. Any examination would reveal it to be deception.
TRANSFORMER
That same Mark Griswold, when he ran for the Washington State Legislature in Seattle’s 43rd Legislative District, had these choice positions listed on his campaign website:
- “Subsidized higher education should be available at little or no cost to anyone who wants it.”
- “It may cost a lot of money but this is the only way we will get drivers out of cars and into public transportation.”
- “Whatever it costs, a good public transportation system must be built and it must be built now.”
- Everyone should have the right to affordable health care.
- One of the founding principles of the Republican Party is equality for all. I believe that premise applies to gays and lesbians as well.
And he was interviewed by he Seattle Times’ Danny Westneat, who reported:
His politics should appeal to moderates and independents. He supports gay marriage and abortion rights…
Since that race ended in failure, Mark has denied that those are his positions, or rather, has denied that any conclusion about his positions that you might draw by reading his words could possibly be accurate (Decepticon lingo). But he continues to support the GOP Left, admitting to membership in the pro-abortion, gay rights, immigration amnesty, radical environmentally deranged, tax-and-spend, anti-Constitutional, “Mainstream Republicans of Washington.”
‘Nuff said.
The Decepticons
I remarked back in 2006 that Mark Griswold’s wing of the GOP was not only not conservative, but not neocon, either, since neocons tend to hold traceable positions. But “Mainstreamers” can’t win Party offices without fooling conservatives into voting for them and have to develop deceptive rhetorical tricks or tell outright lies to deceive the grassroots.
So I called them “Decepticons.” The picture at the top of the article is Mark Griswold obligingly wearing a “Decepticon” T-shirt (from the kid show “Transformers” that features the “evil Decepticons”) to announce his allegiance to the Sotelo/Young decepticon administrations and their false posturing.
Transforming their stance to match the moment, parsing their words to deceive their constituency. They are Decepticons, indeed.
He looks like a weak kneed homo.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”– John F. Kennedy
Soon the rifles will speak
I deleted it because 1) Brian is permanently banned from SP for past racist and inflammatory comments (and, no, I’m not going to take the time to go into what they are) and 2) his comments had no relevancy to the post. He was simply badmouthing me for the sake of badmouthing me. If he wants to do that he can do it here.
As for all your quotes about/from me and what not dredged up from years ago, they are either 1) made up 2) taken out of context or 3) in the case of the Danny Westneat quote, incorrect.
I don’t support abortion. I don’t support gay marriage. I don’t support government subsidized education or transportation.
I’ll go toe to toe with you any day, Doug, and will always come away the bigger conservative.
It is interesting, MarkGriswold, that although you and I both know that you were aware of this article the day it went up, it has taken you more than two weeks to compose a reply. Much triangulation must have gone into it.
You have labored long and hard, along with the rest of the Radical Republican Left, to slander Brian Thomas. You were part of the 21-point anti-Republican campaign of the Young/Sotelo administration (extensively chronicled here: http://thereaganwing.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/blacklisted-michael-youngs-anti-republican-war/ ), a campaign to support the re-election of Marxist County Councilman Larry Gossett, and you have been a loyalist of that wing of the Party, their rules violations, illegal activity including physical assault (some of which is chronicled here: http://www.thereaganwing.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&printerfriendly=1&page_id=273) and extensive slander.
Specifically you took part in saying Brian is:
. (a) a racist
. (b) anti-Semitic
. (c) “harassed” or “attacked” women, and
. (d) had a police record.
(All of those claims were blatant, slanderous lies you helped spread throughout the Republican Party and on SoundPolitics. See documentation in my next comment, below.)
I am glad to hear you no longer support abortion, gay marriage (a link to anything you published opposing SB5688 would be helpful in establishing this), government subsidized education or transportation… in theory, anyway. But because you clearly intend to continue to run with the GOP left, it would be more believable if you no longer supported candidates, like Mike McGavick or Rob McKenna, who do.
And if the statements scanned from your campaign website are “1) made up” or “2) taken out of context” it is because the “context” was your campaign website and the person who “made up” the stuff was you.
It would be conceivable, of course, that the reporter Westneat got your positions wrong, except that you made absolutely no effort, at the time, to correct him. And you continued, then as now, to support the pro-abortion, gay rights, alien amnesty, tax-and-spend (see: “Dave Reichert”), “we don’t have to obey the law,” Global Warming wing of the Republican Party.
I have known Brian since 2004, have held extensive discussions with him, and know that he is not a racist (although his antagonist, and your friend, Michael Young, appears to be) and I have never heard a vaguely racist statement come out of his mouth. His campaign of 2005 (where you supported the Marxist, Malcom X Democrat) was very specifically anti-racist in nature.
For you to announce that he has been “banned” from Sound Politics (without previous notice to any living human), for phantom “racism” you refuse to specify, is not simply an act of (typical) dishonest liberalism. It is the tactic of a sniveling little coward.
It wouldn’t be hard, Mark, to be a “bigger conservative” than me, but you’d first have to be a conservative… and that requires more that self-labeling. You have to DO something conservative. Are you ready to begin?
Mark Griswold on SoundPolitics.com (post is dated 3/22/06):
“As for Brian Thomas and the 2nd District caucus, well, technically he was nominated (through some confusion and only by one vote even though he was the only “candidate” in the race) and because he was we allowed him to put an R next to his name. There’s nothing says we had to endorse him though and we would have been crazy to do so. What am I talking about? You’re welcome to go read the inches thick file with his hate filled, racist and anti-semetic letters at the KCGOP office or his police file down at SPD (which includes some restraining orders by some very prominent Republican elected officials). But then I’m sure you’ll just say all of that was forged by the vast RINO-wing conspiracy that you’re so convinced exists. Just answer me this: how are the aliens involved and what part does the Project for the New American Century play in it all?”
Link to the thread: http://www.soundpolitics.com/archives/005874.html
[BTW, Mark's account of the caucus is also fictional]
RBN, You need a current email address to post on the Reagan Wing.
Mark,
If you recall, that little response of yours from 2006 that Doug was kind enough to post here was directed at me.
Mark you were so full of it then, just like you are now. If you remember you folded like a cheap paper bag. So just so we’re clear why don’t you tell us all who it was that gave you that non restraining order story about Dow Constantine. Remember I already know who it was that leaked it to you.
So don’t try saying it was the reporter from the Times that you got the information from.
Just so everyone understands I am not defending Dow Constantine: Mark helped those miserable excuses for human beings that were running Susan Hutchison’s campaign ruin an amazing person’s reputation and have severely damaged her ability to run for office in the future.
In short, Mark, people that live in glass houses shouldn’t be throwing stones at anyone else.