Patrick Sammom, President of Log Cabin Republicans, a group founded in the 1980′s by gay and lesbian Republicans, discusses the Republican Party and gay and lesbian issues.
Wow, you guys are crazy. Just a word of warning, you’ve hitched your wagon to a dying star. I mean, feel free to retain your paleocon ideas. But if you haven’t noticed already, please take note of the fact that society is changing (just like it always has) and it’s leaving you behind.
I understand why you’re uncomfortable with gays. You’ve probably just come into contact with very few. Or the ones you do know have kept it a secret.
Mostly, though, I would guess you’re probably “grossed out” by what you perceive to be the mechanics of homosexual sex. This is also known as the sixth-grader argument against gays. I’m in the Army and when my coworkers openly talk about their sex lives, it grosses me out. Fat Soldiers + fat girlfriends = I don’t want to think or hear about it.
But I don’t say anything… why? Because I realize it’s important to tolerate things I don’t understand. Pluralism is an essential part of democracy.
And that’s just what I would tell you guys.. you don’t have to understand it or like it. Just be a little mature. Grow up. It’s like the Japanese and sushi. Everyone used to be all “raw fish.. that’s disgusting.” Well, cool. Don’t eat it. But if someone else eats sushi every night… that neither breaks your leg nor picks your pocket, does it?
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”
— Samuel Adams
“Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.”
— Samuel Adams
Wow, Aaron, you’re totally wrong. My word of warning, back to you, is that you’ve hitched your wagon to unmitigated evil. I mean, feel free to intellectually slouch your way to Soviet Gomorrah with your Cultural Marxism (see: Antonio Gramsci, Ernst Bloch, Wilhelm Reich, Erich Fromm, Herbert Marcuse, among others) But be aware that you champion the destruction of freedom and justice, the corruption of both government and American culture and all the economic hardship that comes with it.
You say, “society is changing (just like it always has)” You’ve noticed? The process you reference was noted at least as far back as the Greek historian Polybius, writing before 122 B.C. He said the progression was: kingship, tyranny, aristocracy, oligarchy, democracy, mob rule, and tyranny again. Similar observations have been made in modern history stating the “change” this way: “The people go from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back into bondage.” Your position, Aaron, is way, way, past faith or courage or liberty and attempts to lay the foundation stones of bondage.
You accuse us of being “uncomfortable” with “gays” (by which I take it you mean outwardly demonstrative practicing homosexuals). Where is your evidence? You even project our lack of experience with same. You hypothesize a repulsion to homosexual “mechanics.” You reference a purely hypothetical “perception” you denigrate as “the sixth-grader argument” and attribute it to us.
You speak from pure prejudice.
It is an incontrovertible fact that you have absolutely no knowledge what our experience or perception is and have not bothered to ask. Why are you so comfortable preaching from total ignorance?
You claim that you “… realize it’s important to tolerate things I don’t understand,” but you clearly don’t understand us and yet begin your post calling us “crazy.” Misconstruing our motive and rudely summoning your phantom straw men you tell us to “be a little mature” and to “Grow up.”
Is this your version of “tolerance?”
No, Aaron, this is your bigotry based in your ignorance. You have made poor arguments on our behalf that we did not make and congratulated yourself for defeating them. Then on that basis you hurl epithets. Are you so blind you are unaware of your own tactics? Or are you simply incapable of ethical behavior?
You tell us, metaphorically, if we “don’t like sushi” we should simply “not eat it” and leave others alone. That was, precisely, the argument for slavery. “If you don’t believe in slavery, don’t own one.”
You labor to unleash on school children an addiction more destructive than heroin and to begin by removing all warning labels.
You need a virtual dunce hat for those who flunk even first grade critical thinking, like Aaron.
You do realize that Aaron is sufferring from a classic example of “xenophobia”? Liberals love that word, they just don’t realize that they are the ones most afflicted with it.
Dick Cheney a Satan worshiper that agrees with Satan’s doctrine ! is this a surprise to anyone ?
Patrick Sammom, President of Log Cabin Republicans, a group founded in the 1980′s by gay and lesbian Republicans, discusses the Republican Party and gay and lesbian issues.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/Media/2008/09/02/HP/A/9905/Patrick+Sammom+Log+Cabin+Republicans+President.aspx
Wow, you guys are crazy. Just a word of warning, you’ve hitched your wagon to a dying star. I mean, feel free to retain your paleocon ideas. But if you haven’t noticed already, please take note of the fact that society is changing (just like it always has) and it’s leaving you behind.
I understand why you’re uncomfortable with gays. You’ve probably just come into contact with very few. Or the ones you do know have kept it a secret.
Mostly, though, I would guess you’re probably “grossed out” by what you perceive to be the mechanics of homosexual sex. This is also known as the sixth-grader argument against gays. I’m in the Army and when my coworkers openly talk about their sex lives, it grosses me out. Fat Soldiers + fat girlfriends = I don’t want to think or hear about it.
But I don’t say anything… why? Because I realize it’s important to tolerate things I don’t understand. Pluralism is an essential part of democracy.
And that’s just what I would tell you guys.. you don’t have to understand it or like it. Just be a little mature. Grow up. It’s like the Japanese and sushi. Everyone used to be all “raw fish.. that’s disgusting.” Well, cool. Don’t eat it. But if someone else eats sushi every night… that neither breaks your leg nor picks your pocket, does it?
A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy. While the people are virtuous they cannot be subdued; but when once they lose their virtue then will be ready to surrender their liberties to the first external or internal invader.”
— Samuel Adams
“Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt.”
— Samuel Adams
Wow, Aaron, you’re totally wrong. My word of warning, back to you, is that you’ve hitched your wagon to unmitigated evil. I mean, feel free to intellectually slouch your way to Soviet Gomorrah with your Cultural Marxism (see: Antonio Gramsci, Ernst Bloch, Wilhelm Reich, Erich Fromm, Herbert Marcuse, among others) But be aware that you champion the destruction of freedom and justice, the corruption of both government and American culture and all the economic hardship that comes with it.
You say, “society is changing (just like it always has)” You’ve noticed? The process you reference was noted at least as far back as the Greek historian Polybius, writing before 122 B.C. He said the progression was: kingship, tyranny, aristocracy, oligarchy, democracy, mob rule, and tyranny again. Similar observations have been made in modern history stating the “change” this way: “The people go from bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependence; from dependence back into bondage.” Your position, Aaron, is way, way, past faith or courage or liberty and attempts to lay the foundation stones of bondage.
You accuse us of being “uncomfortable” with “gays” (by which I take it you mean outwardly demonstrative practicing homosexuals). Where is your evidence? You even project our lack of experience with same. You hypothesize a repulsion to homosexual “mechanics.” You reference a purely hypothetical “perception” you denigrate as “the sixth-grader argument” and attribute it to us.
You speak from pure prejudice.
It is an incontrovertible fact that you have absolutely no knowledge what our experience or perception is and have not bothered to ask. Why are you so comfortable preaching from total ignorance?
You claim that you “… realize it’s important to tolerate things I don’t understand,” but you clearly don’t understand us and yet begin your post calling us “crazy.” Misconstruing our motive and rudely summoning your phantom straw men you tell us to “be a little mature” and to “Grow up.”
Is this your version of “tolerance?”
No, Aaron, this is your bigotry based in your ignorance. You have made poor arguments on our behalf that we did not make and congratulated yourself for defeating them. Then on that basis you hurl epithets. Are you so blind you are unaware of your own tactics? Or are you simply incapable of ethical behavior?
You tell us, metaphorically, if we “don’t like sushi” we should simply “not eat it” and leave others alone. That was, precisely, the argument for slavery. “If you don’t believe in slavery, don’t own one.”
You labor to unleash on school children an addiction more destructive than heroin and to begin by removing all warning labels.
Doug
You need a virtual dunce hat for those who flunk even first grade critical thinking, like Aaron.
You do realize that Aaron is sufferring from a classic example of “xenophobia”? Liberals love that word, they just don’t realize that they are the ones most afflicted with it.